However brand loyalty has frayed. This may be in part to companies losing contact with their customers, as when box stores and now online stores know more about buyers than the vendors themselves. But also many companies have used brand loyalty against their customers. Apple continues to raise prices on new iPhones, just as Gillette has done for decades on razor blades. Some clothing companies that grew based on their (loudly touted) "Made in America" production have shifted to low-cost/offshore mega-factories, hoping no one noticed, or in other ways undermined their own production standards. Globalization has created markets, less for fabulous items and more for vast quantities of good enough products ruthlessly marketed, easily bought, cost effective, and quickly shipped. And companies with vast PR budgets have been able to simulate the social media enthusiasm that was once the reward of actual great products. And, some past great brands have simply petered out, often the cumulative effect of dozens of bad decisions.
However, their is still the opportunity for great companies to flourish. Given that, a question for the community:
To which clothing brands and stores are you loyal?
Some brands mentioned (with links):
- Mercer Shirts (OCBDs)
- Porthault (handkerchiefs, which sounds ridiculously indulgent, but it’s not)
- Tory's Jewelry
- Patsy Kane
- Quoddy (casual footwear)
- Pringle cardigans
- Cordings (Outerwear, Tweed and suits, Casual trousers, Polo shirts, Socks, headwear )
- Bates and James Lock (headwear)
- Oliver Brown (Casual trousers)
- Darn Tough socks
- Sunspel (Polo shirts - The quality and fit is much better than PRL or Gant!)
- Eric Javits (winter berets and buckets, summer sun hats)
- Kamakura Shirts. (OCBDs)
- Longchamp (le pliage bags for almost anywhere)
- Bills Khakis (chinos and polos)
- Uniqlo Cashmere (Heattech and AIRism undergarments)
- Wolford (hoisery)
- Tricker's (footwear)
- Vilebrequin Moorea Swim Trunks
- Vermont Originals Earflap Wool Caps
- Lawrence & Foster (caps)
- Olney (cotton hats - It's possible to buy Olney much cheaper (50% or more) from other stores.)
- Eileen Fisher (ballet-ballet-length dresses for anywhere)
- Pantherella (socks)
- John Smedley (Knitwear)
- Breitling (watches)
- Alico hiking boots
- Tilley hats
- Sole orthotic inserts
- Corgi (socks)
- E.Marinella (ties)
- Charles Tyrwhitt
- Great and British Knitwear
- Meindl hiking boots
- Rancourt
- Gill
- Taylor's of Old Bond Street (Shaving and grooming)
- Geo. Trumper (Shaving and grooming)
- DR Harris (Shaving and grooming)
- Fairway & Greene
- Peter Millar
- Tervis Tumblers (so long as they replace them when damaged)
- Mizuno (Forged irons for golf)
- Turnbull & Asser (Shirts, ties and underwear)
- Barbour (Outerwear)
- Skida Hats
- Oak Street Bootmakers
- Title Nine (athletic apparel and bras - TMI)
- Smartwool Socks
- Subaru Cars
- Flint and Tinder
- Norlender sweaters
- Orvis (winter t-neck tops, cotton-gauze summer scarfs, Long Sleeve casual shirts, khakis)
- Alden shoes (Cordovans, In the future I want to purchase in person), (Specifically, The Shoemart in Norwalk, CT)
- Ferragamo (court shoes)
- Allen Edmunds (Spectators)
- Abeo Bio
- Omega watches
- Crockett & Jones (footwear)
- Arcopedico
- Pilot Varsity fountain pens
- Blundstone Boots
- Everlane
- Boden (their children’s line must be woven with Teflon, my son couldn’t wear the stuff out and most is now on its third and fourth child.)
- Xtratuf (outfitted my family on a lark after seeing what seemed like every dock and boat worker in Alaska wearing the boots. The first pair of boots my 13 yo actually wants to wear. )
- Stormy Kromer
- Longchamp Totes
- Sebago
- Patagonia (outerwear)
- Dansko Clogs
- Boden Dresses
- Brooks Running
- Ben Silver
- Sperry's for deck shoes (the quality isn't there but I put mine through a lot and get new ones each year)
- Murray's for ACK Reds (even if the quality isn't what it once was, it’s still small enough for me to support them and better than the big brand imitators)
- Diamond Gusset jeans
- New Balance
- Bass
- Vineyard Vines
- Ralph Lauren
- Brooks Brothers (Made in America ties and suits, sweaters, coats, and Zac Posen designed dresses for events)
- Lacoste (polo shirts)
- Carhartt
- L.L. Bean (Bean boots, OCBD, occasionally khakis, polos, Gum Shoes, short sleeve casual shirts, tote bags, winter coats)
- Kmart Basic Editions Men's Button-Front Oxford Shirt
- J. McLaughlin
- JJill (black, flat-cut “wearever” tops and pull-on slacks, sleepwear)
- Eddie Bauer
- Filson (home of L.L. Bean Signature alum Alex Carlton)
- J Press (for blazers and hangers, MTM dress shirts, blazers/suits, dress trousers, and sweaters)
- Lands' End (including for swim wear)
Lands End
ReplyDeleteI could recite a litany of disappointments with the established brands. My Bean boots that came apart at the stitching on a hunt after only two years of wear (during that short time when they were selling some as the Maine Hunting Shoe again). The Brooks OCBDs with too-small collars. The nightmare that was Land's End Canvas.
ReplyDeleteI remain loyal to Bean. Discerning in my purchases and usually not straying from the tried and true staples (Bean boots, OCBD, occasionally khakis if the cut looks reasonable, polos). I find eBay and Poshmark for vintage Bean yields better results though.
I remain loyal to Brooks and despite many misgivings that's not likely to change anytime soon.
I gave up on Land's End several years ago. Couldn't even rely on a pair of chinos from them (so much shrinking, color fading, might as well have bought something from Target). However, the last two catalogs I've received show some promising changes (it will take a lot to get me back though).
I'm loyal to Sperry's as well.
I would like to be loyal tp Vineyard Vines but I can't figure out what they are doing sometimes.
- DMD, first time comment, mid-30's professional
I've had good luck with Lands End. Maybe give them another try. I have many pairs of chinos from them without any shrinkage (cotton always stretches back out anyway). I like the color fading because it gives them a patina (Aiken are you reading?) There was an issue with flaring side pockets but they fixed that by making them more horizontal. I can't speak about the elastic waist chinos as I hope to never need to wear such a thing.
DeleteI got into thrifting about 15 years back. made it a weekly habit of stopping by 3 or 4 shops. and ebay. I have some amazing things. I gave up on all of the name brands a long time ago. Full retail prices are a joke. In the 80s in college Brooks button downs were a good price. None of this slim fit nonsense etc. And priced under 30 dollars. made in USA with flaws often, but if you inspected them you could find keepers. Joe Bank was not expensive then. Decent suits. But Brooks went to Hell. and the current prices are for stupid people. Polo has some good stuff at thrift stores if you are lucky. I find good Alden and Allen Edmunds shoes at ebay. for khakis I got to a outlet store that sells upscale things. I found great pants there. 30 dollars for all cotton Khakis. Wonderful quality. One pair lasted several years. But at thrift stores you have to go on a regular basis like a hobby. You can find amazing things there too. Usually men's pants are beat. But brand new shirts and Harris tweed jackets, and i have 4 navy blazers. All like new. One is cashmere. that's my suggestion depending on where you live. Make it a hobby and you will find great things and save a lot of money. I got an English Hawks and Gieves sp? suit at thrift. LIKE NEW. Marked 10 USD. It even fit. Like new. One Savile Row. when I got to the counter they said it was half price day. got it for 5 dollars. When I got home I googled it and the suit today is probably 2000 usd or more. but you have to be persistent and have fun with it. and the things I didn't buy!!!!! amazing. Good luck with all those Beans and Lands End and Brooks etc. They 've been taken over by younger types that don't even know how traditional clothes should fit. Trim fit, slim fit, monkey suit, boy suit, nonsense shit. You look like a porch monkey. With the nazi haircut and the beard. And a monkey suit. Maybe a tattoo on your neck. LOL. It was pass just as double knit suits and white belts did. I miss Hungtingon clothiers. they were selling great English shoes at the end. Got a great viyella shirt from them too. Miss them. Go thrifting. and ebay. good luck.
DeleteI need to update and revoke my Lands End recommendation. They are now almost exclusively selling "pull on" chinos with elastic waists. Non-elastic chinos, for tall women at least, are now 60% cotton instead of 98%. Good thing I stocked up when I did.
DeleteI have zero loyalty to any of the established national and international brands and stores. However, I do have loyalty to independent businesses in my locality.
ReplyDeleteAfter 50 years of being a loyal customer I have given up on LLBean because of poor quality.
ReplyDeleteI now look to Bills Khakis (chinos and polos), Orvis (sweaters, shirts and gifts), New Balance, Quoddy and Sperry for footwear (mostly made in US)..
I am in my mid 70s and purchase much more on line than at retail stores now.
I remain loyal to Ralph Lauren, Lacoste and Brooks Brothers despite their declining quality and gaudy logos.
ReplyDeleteI have given up on both Ralph Lauren and Gant due to recurring quality problems - rapid fading and shrinking/stretching after washing. I used to buy their casual shirts, polos, chinos, shorts and beachwear in the summer sales but even that reduced prices, they're not worth the money. Only a few pairs of PRL's seersucker swim shorts in various colours remain in my wardrobe.
DeleteAdmittedly, for better or for worse, Brooks Brothers.
ReplyDeleteMercer Shirts without a doubt. LL Bean only for the tote bags. Alden shoes though I think the quality varies with the cordovan--in the future I want to purchase in person. Tervis Tumblers so long as they replace them when damaged. Pilot Varsity fountain pens. Forged Mizuno irons for golf. Fairway and Greene as well as Peter Millar make some commendable sweaters and other items. J Press for blazers and hangers(!). Minnesota Firewood for birch. Finally, Amazon for used books.
ReplyDeleteI believe one thing that ruined Brooks was the internet and discounting. In the 80s it was perfect. A limited selection of just right items priced fairly. Today they have far too many things and appear to rely on constant sales on which I assume they have originally priced to make a serious profit. LL Bean is now the backwoods Forever 21. Local menswear stores suffer from the demise of the suppliers. The last one I shopped in had to call Corbin to determine whether they could even get a pair of grey slacks. Gant? That was 50 years ago. Lacoste the same. What I'd pay for a Gant shirt as they made in the sixties or a Lacoste shirt with a tennis tail.
Nails it. Old school. Been reading my mail. Right as rain about those Pilot Varsity Fountain Pens...beats the tar out of my ancient Diplomat pen.
DeleteLL Bean for Gum Shoes
ReplyDeleteBrooks brothers for OCBD
E marinaella ties
Bills khakis for khakis and knit shirts
Barbour coats and filson coats
No Brand Labels
Places I will always shop and things I will always buy:
ReplyDeleteL.L. Bean (apparel and gear)
Blundstone Boots
Brooks Running (sneakers and apparel)
Skida Hats
Lands End Swimwear
Patagonia Outerwear
Longchamp Totes
F.L. Woods
Tory's Jewelry
Boden Dresses
Dansko Clogs
Swedish Clogs
Title Nine (athletic apparel and bras - TMI)
Bauer Mittens
Smartwool Socks
Uniqlo Cashmere
Subaru Cars
I'm sure I'm forgetting some things........
Hello,
ReplyDeleteI’m not a shopper, I prefer that my clothes go unnoticed. I’m a city dweller, don’t go to an office, don’t follow trends, care about comfort, consider luxury in idiosyncratic small ways, insist on performance. Here’s the list:
LLBean (winter coats); Orvis (winter t-neck tops, cotton-gauze summer scarfs); JJill (black, flat-cut “wearever” tops and pull-on slacks, sleepwear); Brooks Brothers (sweaters, coats, and Zac Posen designed dresses for events); Eileen Fisher (ballet-ballet-length dresses for anywhere); Longchamp (le pliage bags for almost anywhere); Eric Javits (winter berets and buckets, summer sun hats); AbeoBio and Arcopedico (shoes) because I value my feet and I’m old; Ferragamo (court shoes) because, despite my previous statement, this still matters for unexamined reasons; Wolford (hoisery); Porthault (handkerchiefs); which sounds ridiculously indulgent, but It’s not; Uniqulo (Heattech and AIRism undergarments). And I fill in with vintage Pringle cardigans.
Do I long for worn khakis, moccasins, button downs and a barn jacket? Yes, along with an ocean, a forest, a potting shed and a pitcher of sun tea. (Sobs.)
Thank you. That was kinda fun.
Best,
P.S. Your website is one of my guilty pleasures.
Best comment ever
DeleteI love this answer. Classic style, after all, should be comfortable , unpretentious and unassuming.
DeleteLacoste for polo shirts
ReplyDeleteLL Bean for short sleeve casual shirts
Orvis for Long Sleeeve casusl shirts
Brooks Bros. and Mercer for dress shirts
Bills and Polo for Khakis
Mercer & Sons for their OCBDs
ReplyDeleteJ. Press for their MTM dress shirts, blazers/suits, dress trousers, and sweaters
LL Bean for boots & totes
Brooks Brothers for their Made in America ties and suits
Bills Khakis for casual trousers
O'Connells for sweaters
Barbour for wax jackets
Sperry for deck shoes (the quality isn't there but I put mine through a lot and get new ones each year)
Murray's for ACK Reds (even if the quality isn't what it once was, it’s still small enough for me to support them and better than the big brand imitators)
Oak Street Bootmakers, Alden, and Allen Edmunds for leather shoes... haven’t tried Quoddy yet but will.
Thank you for this list, Muffy. I dislike shopping on line as I like to feel and see quality (or lack of) up close. Alas, so many retailers have poor quality offerings these days. I miss the days when I could buy all of my casual "play clothes" from LL Bean and everything else from Talbot's and Lord & Taylor. I continue to rely on my ever-growing-older wardrobe...
ReplyDeleteBoden - their women’s line is well made and their choldren’s Line must be woven with Teflon, my son couldn’t wear the stuff out and most is now on its third and fourth child.
ReplyDeleteEverlane - new for me last year and so far all items purchased are classic, well made and comfortable
Xtratuf - outfitted my family on a lark after seeing what seemed like every dock and boat worker in Alaska wearing the boots. The first pair of boots my 13 yo actually wants to wear. Fingers crossed.
I may be done with Lands End.
In no particular order-
ReplyDeleteBean
Brooks
Orvis
Barbour
Lands' End
Allen Edmonds
Ben Silver
and my local hardware store for everything else
I lean toward sheaths when dresses are required. J. McLaughlin was recommended to me and I bought 2 of theirs. They are a poly knit, but that's the way of the world. They get points for being classic and washable and if they stay that way, I will be loyal.
ReplyDeleteMercer shirts
ReplyDeleteStormy Kromer or Carhartt hats
Rancourt, Quoddy, Red Wing Heritage, Alan Edmonds
Bills Khakis and polos
Flint and Tinder (all garments)
Diamond Gusset jeans
Darn Tough socks, LL Bean Bean boot
Filson
New Balance running shoe
From abroad: Norlender sweaters, Meindl and Alico hiking boots, Omega watches, Tilley hats, Sole orthotic inserts
These are all great brands, and I have several items from many of them. I'll add Alden to the list, and specifically, The Shoemart in Norwalk, CT which carries all of Alden's shoes. For years, part of my vacation routine when returning home from Nantucket was a stop in the shop to check out their wares.
ReplyDeleteI'll also add a relative newcomer: Kamakura Shirts. The Japanese have long adopted classic American preppy style, and I think Kamakura's OCBDs are some of the highest quality on the market today. I can see myself being loyal to these shirts for years to come.
Anonymous 9:17 PM; Off topic, but I agree wholeheartedly that the Japanese interpret US Preppy style beautifully. I took photos of shop windows there and used the images to freshen up my wardrobe.
DeleteI like Orvis for khakis. I can get them cuffed. If you order them online, their lengths are in 1/4 inches.
ReplyDeleteI would be loyal to anyone who would make a dress with sleeves, at least to the knee, with no blends of poly, viscose, etc.
ReplyDeleteBoden was mentioned- they used to be better-- I wish I had bought up all of the dresses and skirts that I liked from them about ten years ago with the colors/patterns from then, and the better quality.
--EM
My loyalty list has got a lot shorter in recent years. Over 90% is made in the UK.
ReplyDeleteOuterwear - Cordings, Barbour
Tweed and suits- Cordings
Casual trousers - Cordings, Oliver Brown
Polo shirts - Cordings and Sunspot
Shirts, ties and underwear - Turnbull & Asser, Charles Tyrwhitt (tattersalls only)
Knitwear - John Smedley
Socks - Cordings, Corgi and Pantherella
Footwear - Tricker's, Crockett & Jones
Shaving and grooming - Taylor's of Old Bond Street, Geo. Trumper, DR Harris
The earlier reply post in which I corrected Sunspot to Sunspel was approved but now it has mysteriously disappeared. It included some additional comments on my favourite hat brands.
DeleteCan you please provide an explanation for the deletion? Did I break any rules or upset any brands that I mentioned? It would be useful to know for future reference.
I apologize and have absolutely no clue what happened to your comment. Periodically comments do disappear and I have yet to figure out why. Please feel free to re-post it. I am always so grateful for all of your comments.
DeleteMany thanks for the reply. I'll blame Google again. I recommended Olney hats and Lawrence & Foster for a wide range of tweed and linen caps.
DeleteOlney supplies Bates and James Lock in St James's (who apply huge mark-ups) plus numerous retailers. L&F makes caps for Cordings, Oliver Brown and other retailers. They offer a MTO service if you ask them.
Uniqlo
ReplyDeleteL L Bean, Barbour, Sperry,Tilley,Breitling, just to name a few.
ReplyDeleteFaherty has been really impressing me lately. Their polos and sport shirts are extremely comfortable and stylish without being very trendy. Their social media presence is also very smart and has a personal feels, since the owners are constantly present
ReplyDeleteAllen Edmonds, J. Press, Southwick, Dale of Norway, and a smattering of others are on my mental list. However, there are quite a few different additional 'labels' in my dresser and closet. It really depends on quality and apparent longevity of an item. I have a lot of vintage items too, which have been just fine with a few alterations, dry-cleaning now and then, and routine maintenance..
ReplyDeleteBest Regards,
Heinz-Ulrich
I’m not loyal to brands as much of an idea of how my clothes are made. Materials, quality, construction, fit, and location are all taken into consideration.
ReplyDeleteATC
Bean, pretty much, but some Bauer and others. And mostly from online because the retail stores nearby don't often have what I want.
ReplyDeleteActually, it's somewhat hybrid: if I find something I like in a store — slacks for example — I'll buy one from the store, then go online and order four more of the same thing, so I have enough to rotate them for a year or more.
Luckily, I'm at a point where business casual from Bean etc. is fine for both office use and away. And frankly, as the earlier thread on sloppy public dress pointed out, it's sartorially trivial to put yourself way ahead of the ordinary scene all around you.
No, the Bean etc. stuff doesn't last as long as it used to, but then what does? And I tend to be hard on clothing anyway, so I'm not going to spend a lot on it — at Brooks or Orvis, for example.
No particular order:
ReplyDeleteBean
Barbour
Lands End
Bass
Eddie Bauer
Orvis
Patsy Kane
Nothing (except Patsy) is as good as it used to be, but its better than going to the mall.
MaryAnne
Awwww, so sweet (as always) MaryAnne - thank you!
DeleteIsn't there a difference between what brands we "like" or "prefer" as opposed to which we are truly loyal to? In the sense of forgiving mistakes, giving them first shot at our business, not shopping around for like items, etc.? By that definition I am loyal only to J. Press and O'Connell's. And Mercer for shirts.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you Sartresky.
DeleteInteresting that you like O'Connells. I so want to love them but their service is average at best and their products are overpriced given the quality. And they simply cannot measure garments for alterations. I don't get anything altered with them anymore, even though the store is local. I really don't understand the fuss about the place.
DeleteO'Connell's has been my source for vintage (old stock) Sero business shirts. They are well-priced but not renewable stock. I cannot comment about in-store experience, but O'Connell's has always been fast and friendly via Internet and mail.
DeleteLong live O'Connell's !!!!!
DeleteSo many interesting responses.
ReplyDeleteI love my Subaru Outback ( 4th one) and it sparks joy and love anytime I look at it or drive it. However, I'm not a fan of all the technology on cars now.
I haven't been happy with fashion for many years so I wouldn't describe myself as being loyal to any particular clothing brand but I do shop at Orvis more often than any other company and I enjoy their class trips and catalogs. Orvis has wonderful customer service and they offer a more sophisticated or mature line of sportswear than LL Bean or Eddie Bauer.
I have a closet full of traditional and timeless clothing so I don't feel the need to purchase clothing very often unless it's a unique well-made timeless piece. Two years ago I discovered Scottish-made lambswool cardigans on Amazon from the Great and British Knitwear company and I gobbled up several crew neck sweaters at a super price. They will last the rest of my life. I also enjoy the recommendations on this blog. My husband loves F.L Woods and vintage LL Bean on Ebay and Etsy. I once loved LL Bean but there isn't anything I would purchase from them today except the canvas tote and I have plenty of them that will last the rest of my life.
My husband buys Kmart's Basic Edition 100 percent cotton button-down shirts to wear casually. They are well-made. We laughed so hard watching a recent interview with Ralph Lauren who was wearing a Kmart Basic Editions shirt! Ralph said it was his favorite all-time shirt.
I’m with you. I love my 1999 Subaru Forester! Best car I’ve ever had and still going strong. Other brands: Lands End, LL Bean, Twinings and Apple. (I also have oodles of canvas totes and have started filling them up at Christmas and using them as gift bags.)
DeleteChewing broken glass is better than enduring the mall! Well, maybe not, but you get the idea.
ReplyDeleteBest Regards,
Heinz-Ulrich
I would certainly agree with that!
DeleteJacqueline
New Canaan Thrift Shop.
ReplyDeleteI'm loyal to Bean, but once removed. My clothes have to be functional, but I REFUSE to pay $65 or more for a flannel workshirt that's going to get muddy and snagged on barbed-wire. Fortunately, God or someone brought us E-bay where I mop up good Bean things I consider "regifters!" ;-)
ReplyDeleteJ. Press is the only clothier I can rely on to sell trousers that I can have finished to 36", while not being baggy and on the trim side. The life of a tall person is an unending struggle...
ReplyDeleteBrooks Brothers. JCrew (Unpopular opinion? I find their clothes to be higher quality for a reasonable price). LLBean. Barbour. Bills Khaki. R Lauren/Polo. Sperry. Bass.
ReplyDeleteI live near O'Connell's and I've tried to like it but its just not that great. Service is average at best and the place looks like a Goodwill. So much for shopping local! Sperry. And finally....Volvo. Honorable mentions to Orvis and Vineyard Vines. What has become of you Lands End?
Sebago (over Sperry)
ReplyDeleteLincoln Cars
Buick
Chris Craft
Evinrude
Lawn Boy (older, up to mid 90's 2-cycle mowers)
Land's End
LL Bean
Douglas Gill
Old Spice Original
Log Cabin Syrup (No High Fructose Junk!)
Cross Pens
Yes, Old Spice! J Press and Subaru. My vintage other stuff will last my lifetime.
DeleteO'Connells! I'm very surprised to read a complaint about in store service. They are very easy to deal with via phone and email.If only they were located in NYC, and not Buffalo.
ReplyDeleteThe Huber's are the last of a dying breed, so I try support them whenever possible, even though the last thing I really need is another Shetland or pair of khakis.
I was amused to read of those who are nabbing older good stuff via Ebay and Etsy. I have about a dozen viyella and tattersall shirts I got through ebay. They're terrific!
ReplyDeleteInteresting lists, and interesting omissions. Didn't see any references to blue jeans (I favor Levi 501s, but don't wear jeans nearly as often as I used to), or Rolex watches (well-made and very reliable, but too expensive and too much of a statement, although one of the strongest brands in the world). Thought I would have seen mentions of Land Rovers/Range Rovers and Volvos, given all the photos Muffy posts of them on this site. It's hard to be loyal to many brands these days since the brands are disloyal to their customers by lowering quality and raising prices.
ReplyDeleteRecently, Mercer shirts, which are, literally, perfect, and Jack Donnelly khakis—the latter because I'd given up on ever seeing that classic men's full-cut American khaki cut again. As long as they keep making 'em, I'll keep buying 'em.
ReplyDeleteI finally retired last year (at age 71) and so no longer dress up that much. Much new clothing for men is cut for younger men but that's okay. People my age probably have enough to last the rest of their lives anyway. I certainly do. It includes L.L. Bean, Brooks Brothers, Ralph Lauren and lots of Filson. I also have Sperry, Sebago and Clarks shoes, since I now wear more casual outfits. Chippewa and Hathorn for boots. All of those things wear well, are reasonably priced and won't make anyone stare at you. The rest of the time, especially when doing actual work around the house, I wear ordinary workwear like Key and Dickies.
ReplyDeleteAlthough we liked our Volvos, the only cars I was ever deeply in love with were Rovers. Then I got married.
-L.L. Bean (even though some things aren't what they once were). I like their jeans, the Bean boots, wool socks, the totes, turtlenecks (although they should go back to their old cut/fabric quality), Double L sweaters, and several other things.
ReplyDelete-Lands End (same as L.L. Bean, although there has been some improvement since they cut the Italian CEO loose who wanted to turn them into a fashion brand). Side note: I wish they'd go back to 100% cotton in the Supima fine gauge garments! I live in Europe and appreciate their presence in the UK and Germany, even though they don't have as much of the selection as in the US.
-Two British brands, Joules and Seasalt Cornwall, for their well-made Breton stripe tops, and great socks. Seasalt Cornwall also has some really lovely accessories. These brands are British-- I think they are also available to US-based customers.
-Boden: Not what it once was but occasionally they will have something good. They seem to almost always have a sale/promo code. Their Breton material is thinner than it used to be, but for me it is ok to have some thinner ones as temps are also higher than they used to be.
-Eddie Bauer- only for their great cotton socks. I used to shop a lot there for other things but sadly they are a shell of what they once were.
-Angela Moore jewelry (sadly the company went out of business, but you can still find things pop up on sites such as Ebay).
-Seidensticker (German brand), great blouses/shirts). I'm not sure if this brand is sold in any US stores but I believe some things are available via Amazon. Additionally they have a great outlet near Salzburg, if anyone is on that tourist route.(I usually am not a fan of outlet centers, but this one is exceptionally good.)
-Longchamp for the classic Le Pliage bag.
-EM
I discovered Seasalt last year when visiting relatives in Cornwall. Outdoor & Country's sale is offering discounts of 30-50% on a wide selection of Seasalt garments. O&C ships outside the EU and Non-EU customers benefit from VAT (20%) free prices.
DeleteI also recommend Saltrock, a surf brand from Devon and Cornwall. The shorts (£27.50) and chinos (£30) are incredible value. They are well made and have a generous rise for the mature man. Joules is considerably more expensive, dearer than Jack Wills. Crew Clothing, from Devon, is worth checking out, especially for rugby shirts.
Muffy, thank you for the summary list to this article. It's most helpful.
ReplyDeleteI still have 3 Made in England Barbour jackets, still wear Sperry shoes, the wife drives a Subaru, but LL Bean, Land's End, Brooks Brothers are not what they once were....
ReplyDeleteAlthough I found the Volvo recommendations I missed the referrals for fleece vests.
ReplyDeleteThe fleece vests and "sweaters" are from Cabela's and army surplus. Although I have several heavy sweaters, I wear fleece more because it wears better, washes more easily, is just as warm and I don't have to pull it on over my head. The chief disadvantage is that it is a high friction material. Quilted vests do not have that issue and I have a few of those, one of which I purchased on a trip to London. It is a Barbour.
DeleteI'm not sure how much the brand matters but I see a lot of North Face fleece and jackets (don't have any myself), probably because of their high visibility labels. L.L. Bean has a variety of fleece and pile and I do have one of their retro-styled pile jackets.
I can't quit Ralph Lauren and find, oddly I suppose based on some comments I see, that they fit me very well. Personally, I have extraordinary luck with Florshiem shoes and have gotten at least 10 years out of every pair I own. True Story: There are few men I admired and respected more than my grandfather. He lived through the Great Depression and WORKED harder than any man I ever met. He worked 4 ten hour days a week on a bridge construction crew for the Missouri Pacific railroad. He got home on Friday about noon, had lunch and went back to work work doing doing handy man jobs all over the little town where we lived. After I had graduated college and gotten a job, I treated myself to a nice watch. (A Movado) When I showed it to him he said "That's nice son but a man that spends more money than a good Timex cost is a fool with his money." That was about 30 years ago. I still have the Movado that I wear on special occasions. Everyday however, I wear one of the other two watches I have owned since then. Both were Timex and neither cost over $50.
ReplyDeleteJohn, I agree with your father that it's terribly foolish to spend a lot of money on a watch. My father gave me a Rolex when I graduated and I never enjoyed it like my Timex Weekender watches. I realize he wanted me to have something special and I didn't want to hurt his feelings but I felt like he just wanted me to have something expensive instead of something more meaningful. Several years ago my home was burglarized and the Rolex was stolen and I didn't feel any significant loss but I panicked and began searching for the dainty and simple pendant he had given me. As luck would have it, the thieves didn't find it.
DeleteThe Made in Maine Sperry Top Sider line produced a few years ago (By Highland Shoe Co) was a thing of beauty. The construction, dye color, glove-like fit, and durability showed me exactly why people grew to love the company. This version was the true “Authentic Original” that was made so many years ago. Their modern version is nothing more than an ersatz copy. I wish they would do this run again - I certainly don’t mind paying the hefty price tag for a quality item.
ReplyDeleteI like Mercer, but wonder does anyone wear Gitman shirts ?
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely. Gitman is great.
DeleteA few things I’ve found that were good enough to be (somewhat) loyal to over the years:
ReplyDeleteBelted Cow Company & Leatherman Ltd. Novelty Belts, Vilebrequin Moorea Swim Trunks, Sebago & Sperry Deck Shoes, Cordings Country Clothes and Field Accessories, Orvis Corduroys and Fly Fishing Attire, Alden Cordovans and Allen Edmunds Spectators, Lodenfrey Loden Coats, LL Bean Boots, socks and Lined Khakis, Burberry Trench Coats, Patagonia Down Jackets and Vests, JC Penney Cotton Polos, Murray’s Nantucket Reds, Brooks Brothers Country Club Blazers, Borsalino & Stetson Fedoras, Aran Sweater Market Fisherman’s, and Vermont Originals Earflap Wool Caps.
There, now with this list in hand, I believe that Interpol, the CIA, the FBI, the Internal Revenue Service, the United Way, my Alma Maters, the Salvation Army, and every telemarketing firm on earth should have no trouble finding me.
While Mercer is certainly a favorite, I prefer Michael Spencer. Their new blue oxford is what I think of as a traditional blue oxford cloth color. They offer several other colors as well as customization not offered by Mercer.
ReplyDeleteI am loyal to every brand that doesn't lower the quality in combination with raising the prices.
ReplyDeleteMy go to brands are LL Bean and J Jill. The quality is not what it once was, but I am still able to find functional clothing for work in an office casual environment. My new "go to" bag and tote brand is Andi Bags, independently owned and designed by a young woman in NYC. They are durable, waterproof, and look great. Perfect for commuters who want something light to carry a lunch, computer, and files when they hop on the train. I tend to go to Nordstrom for shoes because they carry Dansko, Born, and Sofft.
ReplyDeleteI'm still loyal to Lands End. There was a time when I was concerned about their quality and it seemed like I returned more than I kept. Apparently the powers that be started paying attention to what was happening because they have greatly improved and I've not returned anything in quite some time. Fingers crossed for the future for them.
ReplyDeleteYesterday I received my order of Effie's Homemade tea biscuits. So, I wanted to add that I've been a loyal fan of Effie's for a number of years and highly recommend their biscuits to tea drinkers.
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ReplyDeleteLL Bean
Ben Silver
Ralph Lauren
Crockett & Jones
Alden
Brooks Brothers
Something about this post has made it stay in my head these past few weeks and that is because the list does not include J Crew. I have some J Crew basic pieces in my closet that I grab whenever I pack for an event that requires "business casual". I know J Crew is struggling, but I will do some struggling myself, if they fail. Whenever my husband and I have business travel ahead, I stop by for update pieces that I blend with some of my better clothes. I'm a woman in my 50's and anyone who knows me would describe my style as classic. J Crew always seems to have a couple of things on hand to help me mix comfortably with a wide age group no matter where the event is held.
ReplyDelete1. Brooks Brothers: still a touchstone, despite the difficulties; the only American licensee of both Supima cotton and Merino Woolmark trademarks.
ReplyDelete2. Lands End: the budget alternative.
3. Nordstrom: the best department store for me in the Pacific Northwest; my source for undies.
4. Smartwool: classic hiking socks, merino baselayers.
5. Patagonia: outerwear, sportswear, etc.
Honorable mentions to two American-made boutique brands, Mercer & Sons and Bills Khakis.
Pendleton.
ReplyDeleteHi, very few brands are at all decent anymore. Better to buy used on ebay. Here are a few brands that are still great, Cars- Toyota, Lexus and Mazda- but I only by 4wd suv's....Seiko has some amazing unkillable watches for the money- at just about every pricepoint. Levi's quality is still good- but you must buy on sale. Fortunately, I have been buying smart for 30 years, and I need nothing. I still love patagonia standup shorts- the only ones I buy. Blundstone has actually dramatically improved quality in the last 5 years, a delightful surprise
ReplyDeleteI suppose I'm a loyal L.L. Bean customer. I even bought something in the local store about two weeks ago. But if you want something for winter, start shopping in September.
ReplyDeleteI also like Filson a lot and have a couple dozen items from them. They also have a local store but it's downtown and the parking is awful. They used to be work clothes. Now they're "lifestyle," which could be said for L.L. Bean.
I'm retired, so I already have a lifetime of dress clothes.
I am retired and need very little, but when I identify clothing needs my preferred stores are O'Connell's, Hunter & Coggins, Bean for five pocket cords and denim shirts, and REI.
ReplyDeleteSome preferred brands are Southwick (sadly no more) for suits and jackets, Haspel for summer suits, Gitman for the unfused OCBDs they offer through O'Connell's, Alden and Quoddy for shoes, Leather Man for casual belts, Murray's for reds and shorts, Berle for pants, Atkinson ties, Barbour, Champion sweats, and Adidas. Virtually everything I wear not described above is O'Connell's house brand, and I have no idea who makes their khakis, polos, and sweaters. On the subject of sweaters, I was so pleased with the service from Pendleton when buying blankets that I bought a grey Shetland sweater from them. I love it, and it was a terrific deal.
I am also very loyal to Martin de Candre shaving soap, Crystal razor blades ($12 for 100 and one lasts a month), and 4711 since shaving daily is part of my look.
These are all great brands. True that quality of clothing has gone down just in general… I think the best pieces I own other than my Barbour, are 80’s and 90’s era pieces from my mom. Ralph, bean, and Flax. I grew up on Nantucket, and we had/have some great boutiques there growing up. Wolfhound Imports for Irish fisherman sweaters and grandfather shirts. Flax for classic and well made linen summer pieces. The Nobby shop had great sailing and rain jackets back in the day. My mother was the ultimate prep to me and she also appreciated classic Kilim smoking slippers and handbags from Artemis Designs and Res Ipsa, also sold on the island.
ReplyDelete. Might I add Hunter Boots as well, though perhaps overdone, I think they are a sturdy, readily available Wellies at a good price? Too flashy for mom with that big logo of course… and Frye boots- I am loyal because of the quality. I had a pair that I beat up daily doing labor for five years.. resoled once and still going strong. Again, too modern, flashy, and Western for my ubiquitously prep mom, but the quality is certainly there, if you stick to minimalist styles. And I do see the younger gen favoring them.
Shocked at some of the quality changes over the years at lands end, jcrew (more popular with younger gen where I grew up, but quality was at least ok then), they are like ‘old navy’ at this point.
As a younger generation who appreciates prep, I have found some newer brands that satisfy my urge for simple and practical quality clothing. I hope you don’t mind me mentioning them.
Although not necessarily prep or as prestigious as older brands, I enjoy them and think they have some promise.
My feet are too narrow and low volume for Blundstones…(I have tried again and again but my feet swim in them), so I have found lovely minimalist Chelsea boots at Thursday Boots. It’s a new brand, but honestly some of the old brands are struggling because of inflation, and some new brands have adopted a modern business model which allows them to create relative quality without compromising anything else.
Quince is like the new everkane, but surpassing them in terms of affordability and minimalism. The quality is good for the price, which is more than I can say about many companies. Although the aesthetic is more modern, they do have classic pieces, like the cashmere crewneck. Minimal and basic fine jewelry for everyday wear at an unbeatable price. it embodies the ideals that we love in prep, like natural fiber, basic styles, sustainability, ethical practices, low key and unpretentious, affordable. Their Italian leather handbags are nice.
I haven’t tried everything but I stand by their fine jewelry, and linen clothing as great low-priced summer basics.
Other than that, as far as Ralph, sorry but I’d rather just wear my moms RL polo from the 90’s :) even after all these wears and washes, the difference in quality is discernible. I feel especially sorry for people who shop at their factory outlet . Of course I still love the aesthetic, but what’s the use of aesthetic when it falls apart?
One more Nantucket thing. I am with you all on the Subaru, Volvo, all that are mentioned. We did grow up with jeeps and grand wagoneers. However, even though the Jeep is seen as a Nantucket symbol, it has become a bit flashy as of late and associated more with tourists. The real Nantucket car is a Ford. Because it’s the only dealership that exists on island. So from an islander’s perspective, this has been the most practical car one could own.
A Ford Escape circa 1999-2006, (best years) with beach permit stickers on the bumper, covered in scratches, dog hair, sand, with a droopy ceiling from all the moisture… is imho the ultimate low key island car.
Coincidentally, the one my mom, brother, and I all drive ;)
Thank you all for this extremely fun post!