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Thursday, September 26, 2019

Question for the Community: 2018 Volvo V60?


Question for the Community:
I am thinking about buying a 2018 Volvo V60. I've checked Consumer Reports, et al. I would like to have community comments.

32 comments:

  1. Subaru is the new Volvo. We had nonstop Volvo's since 1972, most of the time two at a time. Let the last one go last fall. Subaru.

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    1. Couldn't agree more! Selling our 2010 Outback to a friend's daughter and getting a new Outback in a few weeks.

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    2. Patsy, I too have a brand new Outback. In case you haven't driven the new one at night, be sure to do that before purchasing. The first one I purchased was returned because of the Projector Beam LED headlamps. Some folks don't mind them but I do. They have a greenish tint, low visibility and an extremely low cut-off line. I got another one with the projector beam halogen headlamps ( a big improvement) but the cutoff line is still too low and dangerous for driving on rural or mountain roads and especially when going up or down hills. To test the cut-off line, turn the headlamps on while you're parked in front of a garage or wall. Oh and another thing- those headlamps that turn with the vehicle don't improve the visibility and I thought they were very annoying because they sort of jerk into position.
      I'm extremely disappointed in these headlamps but there's nothing we can do without voiding the warranty. So, I drive with highbeams most of the time now.

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    3. Thank you!! I will be sure to test, since in the winter we spend a lot of time on mountain roads.

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    4. I, too, am a huge Subaru Outback fan.
      MaryAnne

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    5. Patsy, the vehicle return was a horrible experience so I am so glad that I had the chance to warn you. Another thing I want you to notice is how that cut-off line bounces with every bump which I found to be extremely distracting and dangerous. You won't be able to notice any moving object like a deer because of that movement. I felt like I was having an ocular seizure! I love Subaru but they have made a horrible mistake with these lights ( but they are the trendy thing now so they are not the only company). Many lawsuits have resulted from this " new and improved" headlamp design. https://www.cartalk.com/blogs/car-talk-car-complaints/turd-week-projector-beam-headlights

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    6. My husband has always driven a Subaru. A very practical car for New England.

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    7. My problem with Subaru is they are putting those awful CVT transmissions into all their vehicles. Unless the Subaru has a manual transmission or traditional auto, I’d avoid it.

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  2. I've heard good things about the XC40, XC60, and XC90, but I'm not a fan of the body style of the V60 or V90. I prefer the old V70. In fact, I'm thinking of buying a used on in the near future, preferably a 2008-2010.

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  3. I'll add my seal of approval for Subaru. We have three here in Maine and appreciate their longevity, mileage, safety ratings, performance in the snow, and the reasonable price.

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    1. Our ‘07 Forester is a “moonie.” That means it’s been driven the distance to the moon, approx 239,000 miles. It doesn’t owe us a nickel. And we don’t owe a nickel on it. Excellent car when kept on a regular maintenance schedule. All wheel drive works well on rural New England winter roads. But don’t show off when you start to slide into a snowbank.

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  4. 2018 V60 has truly excellent front seats, some of the best in the business. Visibility is so-so, the drivetrain is adequate, the ride is somewhat flinty but pretty acceptable. There is surprising little room in the cargo area, even Volkswagen Golf Sportwagens have far more useful space, but fittings are good quality, and some do not require more space. It is essentially a quality small hatchback rather than a capacious wagon. The controls are actually easier and safer to use than those on the more recent Volvo models. Most 2018 V60s will be significantly depreciated in market value, so if it meets your needs you might find it an economical purchase.

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  5. Hold tight there ! The New 2020 Land Rover Defender 110 400bhp turbo petrol arrives this Easter . Get the real deal ......... not Toy Town :-)

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  6. Land Rover all the way.

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  7. If you want to go anywhere, buy a Land Rover. But if you want to come back again, buy a (Toyota) Land Cruiser.

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    1. More Australian rhetoric my friend ;-)

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    2. Now that I've stopped laughing, the first Land Cruiser models were the most serious competition to the Land-Rover in the 60s, but mainly because it had a bigger engine. Don't know about the price. There were Jeeps, of course, and in several models, including the very utilitarian Jeep station wagon, still branded as a Willys Jeep. Jeep really invented the SUV in that time frame with the Wagoneer. I drove a Jeep around California on vacation and liked it but I am embarrassed to admit that I didn't buy one because the dealer was further away than the Ford dealer.

      It's hard to believe that the Range Rover has been around nearly 50 years now.

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  8. We're into our third Volvo (DL, S60, 2010 S80), and it will be our last one. We've also owned a Forester, and much preferred it to the Volvo SUV offerings. Like (almost) all things, Volvo has abandoned its core competencies and struck our for the land of new-and-glitzy. And given up its earlier customer base.
    (Whining) I still want a Land Rover Defender, but...

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  9. We've had four Volvos, three of which were station wagons. The first one we bought new in 1983 and my wife drove it for 18 years. My daughter still drives an S60. But the new ones just seem so expensive. Now my wife has a VW wagon and I have a Ford.

    I also owned a 1965 Land-Rover (a "real" Land-Rover). It was mostly trouble-free and I drove it pretty hard. I also owned two Rover sedans. I'd really love to have another Land-Rover but only a 1965 model.

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  10. We recently moved from the previous generation to the new one. The main differences apart from the interior/exterior design are the improved driver assistance systems, the rather helpful 360° camera for parking spaces and finaly ventilated seats. The engine/transmission setup hasn't changed much but even though the new car has more horsepower it can feel a little toothless at times. The ride quality has changed but it doesn't feel like an improvement or a downgrade, just different and maybe not as harsh. The driving modes aren't a must-have but most cars seem to have it anyway.

    I'm still not sold on the new exterior and interior design though. The SUVs are too Japanese/Korean for my tastes and the S/V90s are massive. The interior seems a bit prone to scratches and a bit flimsy, the quality is still there. The new centre control system is my favourite part, takes time to get used to but a vast improvement to the old ones overloaded with buttons.

    We were actually thinking of moving on due to the recent move upmarket into BMW/AUDI territory. The retail price on our new one was basically almost 20000€s higher than our old one. When we dicussed it with the dealer he made us an excellent offer on a slightly used one he had in stock so we stayed.

    Which model are you looking at?

    P.S.: Stay away from anything Land/Range Rover. They're money pits and bound to have electric problems.



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    1. The new Volvo 90 wagons are far more expensive than the out going model , but they do look rather nice . Don't know about the hybrid suspension system though .

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    2. Well, there was no direct predecessor to the V90. With the introduction of their new models Volvo increased their prices due to a move upmarket and they are quite well equipped, both things were communicated in advance. Looking at my dealer the prices for one year olds are high but they've lost quite a bit of value already.

      You mean the hybrid AWD T8?

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  11. We presently own a current model year XC60, and V70 wagon for the past twenty. I recently sold my 2014 Volvo S60, after nearly five years of ownership. Other than a sensor on the passive keyless entry lock getting flaky, the car required nothing but maintenance. I personally prefer the aesthetic of the interior of Volvos versus Subarus, but your opinion may differ. I heartily agree with those who commented on the seats; fabulous, and the feature I most miss about that car. I sold the Volvo for a newer, larger BMW sedan, and in spite of upgraded seats in that car, I’ve yet to have found a comfortable seating position, a problem that we’ve not had with any Volvo.

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  12. So I bought an S90 with the premium stereo system early this year. OMG, I may never go back to my trusty stalwart Hondas after this indulgence. This car has spoiled me for all eternity. If you are a sound/stereo groupy, this is the best I have ever experienced. Best wished.

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  13. Depending on your situation and range needs, you may also want to look into the current electric offerings. My 2008 Volvo C30's replacement was a 2017 Nissan Leaf, as Tesla hadn't yet rolled out the Model 3. Despite being a life-long gearhead, I never want to go back to fuel, oil changes and the other various and sundry high dollar maintenance items for a daily driver. Our 2013 Forester went to a kindly aunt's house in the country way too early due to an internal oil sealing issue despite having had TLC from the outset.

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  14. Probably an outlier here, but after driving 500,000+ miles in Volvo, when it was time last year for a replacement I shopped around and found myself in a Volkswagen. The Subaru left me wanting more. The new Volvos just seemed a little less buttoned up. And, I was able to get a great deal on a new VW with a 6 yr/72K mile warranty. Oh, there was one other determining factor... I like leather and my other half is vegan-leaning... The VW has a leatherette interior that satisfies us both (mostly).

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    1. Although we did not look at that many cars, we replaced my wife's V-70 which had been damaged in an accident. We really only considered regular station wagons because we still needed to transport my wife's elderly mother. As it happened, the seats on the otherwise satisfactory Golf "Sportwagen" are rather difficult to get into. They're set rather inboard for our preferences.

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    2. I agree with you Bluetrain about the seats in the VW. I was one of the unlucky ones who owned a VW diesel Jetta sportwagon ( my husband's idea) a few years ago during the scandal and although I loved the gas mileage, I hated that car because of the seats. It was difficult to get in and out of and the seats were terribly uncomfortable and hot during long trips. When the scandal broke, I immediately ran to the Subaru dealer and purchased an Outback.

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    3. Concerning the VW diesel whoop-de-do, the man who broke the story was someone at West Virginia University, where I went to school. But someone else from the school writing in the alumni magazine pointed out that considering the number of VW diesels on the road versus the number of diesel 18-wheelers, what difference does it make?

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  15. A friend took me out for a ride in his new 2019 Volvo. Unbelievably complex, expensive features. Many are safety, comfort and convenience related of course, but I can only imagine how he will come to depend on them and when something goes wrong, the annoyance he'll feel. But then I'm happy with a 2009 pickup with manual everything...

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  16. I have a 2007 Volvo XC70 which is still going strong and two Subaru Outbacks for my kids in college. The Outbacks are good kids’ cars, but the constant recalls re. parking brake problems & airbag problems have convinced me that Subarus do not live up to their reputation as high-quality vehicles. The Ascent is very pretty and worth considering, but I wouldn’t take a chance on a new one. Plus, I’m addicted to Volvo’s light-pressure turbos! My turbo has zoomed me out of many precarious situations and I couldn’t live without it. By comparison, Subarus are heavy tanks that are so slow it’s almost dangerous...at least for F1-type drivers like me! Also, I still need a completely vertical tailgate for moving kids’ gear in and out of dorm rooms, so Subarus and modern Volvos like the V90 with their sloping tailgates are not viable options. When my 2007 Volvo dies, I’ll probably get a 2016 XC70. I’ve had good luck with last model year cars with all the (primarily electrical) kinks worked out over the years. The final year XC70s both look good in silver & black and are plentiful in the used car market. I won’t be buying a new Volvo as I don’t want my car purchase benefiting China. Volvo made a terrible miscalculation selling themselves to the Chinese and abandoning their ubiquitous utilitarian wagons for luxury overpriced bling-mobiles. They can’t compete with their European rivals like Mercedes/BMW/Audi over the long term. Volvo has abandoned their core products & their market niche and left their loyal customers twisting in the wind. Electric vehicles will flop has have so many other unrealistic EV ventures. Very sad!

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