Tuesday, July 18, 2017

Preference: Rolled-Up or Short Sleeves?

Original Photograph From Archives
The English gentleman... does not like short-sleeved shirts (preferring to roll up the sleeves of an ordinary shirt when it is hot). 
- Paul Keers,  A Gentleman's Wardrobe <http://amzn.to/2taZVgx>

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  1. Definitely rolled up. The only exeption are Madras Shirts.

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  2. Yup, rolled up...always!

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  3. No question, rolled-up!

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  4. Rolled up.

    Short-sleeved shirts, with the exception of brightly patterned ones, have the tendency to make the wearer look like he's on his way to fix a photocopier.

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  5. Sleeves rolled up unless it's 90+ degrees. Then it's time for the SS seersucker or madras shirt.

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  6. Never, under any circumstance, does a short-sleeved shirt look classy! Rolled-up sleeves are divine; especially linen shirts!

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  7. My father always wore short sleeved madras or gingham in the summer. Not sure the English Gentleman really knew from hot - lol!

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    1. Hi Patsy, sneak a peek at an Atlas. Lots of those countries that now speak English (ie visited rather extensively by English gentlemen - at least in the past) are in rather "hot" areas. So indeed we have had some familiarity with warm weather. Its only a trifling 77F today in Lincolnshire however, and I'm wearing short sleeves and... shorts!

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  8. I think it was Cary Grant who said, a man over 50 should not wear short sleeve shirts.

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    1. Perhaps he should not wear short pants, either.

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  9. Well, you know, mad dogs and Englishmen...love old photos of British archaeologists - Sir Leonard Woolley, Howard Carter, Max Mallowan, et al - in the Valley of the Kings or Mesopotamia in full shirt & trousers, Ascot tie, sack coat, etc. No comparison to modern UK or archaeology for that matter. But maybe it's because the British sure make great shirts.

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  10. Rolled. No doubt. I love that look. Agree that SS looks like a member of the Geek Squad.

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  11. I'm sitting here in the home of "Dog Days" in the land of sweet tea with rolled sleeves. Even my Madras is rolled but I have a full cut pink striped seersucker and a Ralph Lauren Big Shirt that is white with blue checks and they both have short sleeve and I hope they never wear out. Two of my favorite articles of clothing.

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  12. The only short sleeved shirts I wear are golf shirts, madras shirts, and seersucker shirts. They are only worn with shorts and when it is quite warm.

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  13. SS is already a slippery slope, so err on the side of sleeves too long rather than too short; and please don't pull on a blazer or sportcoat with short sleeves underneath for any other reason than you're chilly inside the house - do NOT leave the house wearing short sleeves under a lapeled jacket. RESIST!

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    1. My father taught me that a navy blazer or seersucker jacket with a white golf shirt was acceptable so long as the top button was fastened. I don't often wear this combination, but if it was good enough for father it's good enough for me. I also live in a place that is hot in the summer, not warm.

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    2. A collared short sleeve dress shirt is in an entirely different category than a knitted golf shirt and from my training in dress, your father was spot on. There is a time and place for that casual look and it works well with loafers without socks. For the most polished look, it is never acceptable to wear a short sleeve dress shirt with either a suit or a blazer. In this case, one would wear socks.

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  14. Next: Socks or not?

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    1. Socks! However my Sperry no-show socks are a no-go. They keep sliding off. Anyone have alternative suggestions?

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    2. I've had the best results with Smartwool, but they aren't exactly perfect depending on the style and fit of your shoe. They make a few varieties of no-show socks (peds is what we used to call them) with a strip of latex on the heel, but of course, they're wool. My husband claims that wool socks are seasonless. The style I'm referring to are great for in between seasons when you still need a bit of warmth on the footbed yet you want that sockless look.

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    3. Thanks, JVK. Those sound great, but for now I'm looking for lightweight socks to wear with my boat shoes in the summer. Peds, etc still show.

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  15. My early training was clear, with which I still agree. Long-sleeved shirts of various weight are appropriate most of the time, and can be neatly rolled up as needed. With regards to short sleeves, modern polo shirts are acceptable casual attire, but other short-sleeved men's shirts may only be of bespoke traditional design for hot weather and not simply be a short-sleeved version of a long-sleeved shirt. T-shirts are only for fitness and sleeveless shirts never acceptable. I can hear it now; "If you are too warm, roll up your sleeves." :)

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    1. We might be siblings [with the exception that my father and my brothers] always wore/wear a white crew neck t-shirt beneath their oxford cloth shirts. Always. I can see my Dad as he's heading out for his regular golf game in searing heat and humidity: oxford cloth button down, white t-shirt underneath, khakis. Every time.

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    2. Good point! My father agrees with you, despite my mother's preference for the white t-shirt to not be visible. I grew up in a mild climate area so humidity was not an issue, but my father frequently traveled (and golfed!) in such regions.

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  16. Agree that short sleeves are acceptable with madras and seersucker. Mercer makes a "long short-sleeve" shirt where the sleeves come down to the crook of the elbow or even an inch lower.

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  17. Rolled. Not to get to risqué but even after nearly 25 years, there is something about my husband's fore arms and rolled sleeves that gives me "feels"

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  18. Rolled up. Even with seersucker and madras

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  19. Even though I am in the heat and humidity of the Texas Gulf Coast, never ever wear short sleeve dress shirts. Rolled. They look more classic and professional.

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  20. I assume we are not talking about polo shirts here, which are always acceptable.

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  21. Rolled up, especially white or light blue shirts.

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  22. "There is no such thing as a short sleeved dress shirt" was often heard during my career. I don't think I have ever owned one and now in retirement in Maine I likely never will.

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  23. Rolled up, always. Polos, henleys (from my crew days) and madras only exceptions.

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  24. Oh come on, in the dog days of summer, a good quality SS checked, gingham, seersucker, or madras casual shirt from BB with a pair of poplin pants or carhartt lightweight khakis? That's my daily summer uniform! I think short sleeves are cool, literally and figuratively.

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